22.5.06

why church can be like your gym

ok so this is not my new body shot, i still have a sizable gut, but i have started working out at our local gym. The cool thing is that not many people look like this guy.... in fact who does?? talk about a condom stuffed with walnuts!

Anyway......

I have noticed some parallels between the modern gym and the modern church and here they are in no particular order.


1.The motivation to go to church/gym : I got off my ass to the gym because well i know that i need to lose some weight and i wont be able to do it "alone" some sort of vain self improvement i guess... So why do most people join a gym? usually they want something for themselves a better body, more fitness or perhaps it is motivated by fear, one guy i met in the change rooms said "my girlfriend said i better get down here because im 50 and i wont be around much longer if i don’t do something"
To often the modern church offers the "self help" gospel the "you can live a better life" message where we go to church because we want to get "better" have less sin, perhaps become a buff and ripped "super christian"

2.the professionals V the rest: Ok i have only been at the gym for a little bit but i don’t think its the guy on the bike next to you that designs your fitness program in fact usually its only the staff that give you any advice or encouragement, they teach you how to use the machines and get you started... but of cause because the staff to user ratio is so high you don’t even see them that much.
So to in the modern church if we are all driven by the "self help" reason for being at church we tend not to have anything more than a surface relationship with other people, sure the people in positions, the senior pastor, the small group leaders all try there best but once again the staff to user ratio is up there (unless your at a small pentecostal church where everybody tends to be a pastor?? i just don’t get it)

3.when you give up: now im sure that if i stoped coming to the gym i might be lucky if i got a call wanting to know where i was. in fact because my direct debit comes out each month im sure it doesn’t matter if i am there or not.
So to in the modern church when we get large or just to focused on the unimportant things we lose track of who "isnt" there we are constantly trying to bring in new "members" but the backdoor stays wide open and we sit back and wonder why we haven’t grown.

now i dont know if churches need to stop being like gyms or if gyms need to be more like churches, either way we need to capture a greater sense of community arround what we call church. It is not a business and i am not a consumer....

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17 Comments:

At 3:38 pm, Blogger Sarah said...

Very True I like "It is not a business and i am not a consumer...." perhaps we need to beat that into some people in the church unversal.....

side notes .
1. in the gay comunity the gym is called gay church because if your male and gay you go there like a religin.
2. I can not wait to go running with you now perhaps we can do the city to surf together ?
awaiting your reply on that one
Sarah

 
At 3:56 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like the music in gyms better than in churches.

Nick

 
At 8:59 am, Blogger andy said...

i dont know the music at my gym sux ... but so does most church music ;) (not my church of cause....)

city to surf? ummmmm sure..... thats like 10 min on the treadmill right?

 
At 1:50 pm, Blogger Barry said...

So true - churches are like the gym. Maybe waaay too much like them

 
At 3:05 pm, Blogger Sarah said...

something like 10 mins on the tred lol .... sure just like it thats what i will tell you ......

 
At 8:18 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

my husband is not going to look like a walnut stuck in a condom

 
At 10:19 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

sure...

 
At 12:40 pm, Blogger Heartichoke said...

So, it seems like all you guys are on the verge of emerging...church..
We are currently in process (I am knee deep in the development of the community association and cafe). If you ever want some really great advice on what not to do to become the perfect emerging church..you're always welcome to drop me a line. I've so been where you guys are--so close to starting your own...?

 
At 2:30 pm, Blogger andy said...

thanks for the comment, yeh it is verry true.... i think in australia we are yet to reach the "critical mass" for emerging churches to fully well.... emerge.... but it is happening... slowly..... i have been involved with missional ministry for over 10 years with Young Life and i fell like its time to impliment that same missional thinking to "church proper" love to learn from your misfortunes ;) perhaps have a little giggle at your accent as well....

email me

 
At 9:26 pm, Blogger Dave said...

Yo, if Andy and I still lived in the same city we would have started a church six months ago.

Or maybe not.

 
At 5:39 pm, Blogger Heartichoke said...

my accent? You guys are the ones with the crazy accent! :) I've seen crocodile dundee, i know all about it.

you know, you can audio blog. i think its like audioblogger.com or something. and then you can record yourselves saying things like "back in university" (we don't say that one), or maybe something about wrestling snakes (you do watch animal planet, right?):)

The thing with this whole emergent business up in my area is that driscoll, and my pastor (other founder of mars hill) kind of shun the emergent title--at least doctine wise. But were still leading an emergent lifestyle. (Which sounds so deviant!) Strange days.

Our cafe is just about open...we shall soon see what becomes of this deviance.


(I like how when you comment on here it asks you to "choose an identity")

 
At 1:58 pm, Blogger Sarah said...

Andrew if you dont blog soon i will doctor up the muscle photo with your head on it like i done did with Mr bacon

 
At 6:04 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pands - it is at this point in the year that I would like to remind you of your New Years Resolution to blog daily... hmmm.... :)

If you don't start blogging more, you may lose your band of faithful blog readers!!! :)

Don't say that we didn't warn ya....!

 
At 11:31 am, Blogger Dave said...

Two things I love:

1. That Heartichoke may be joking, but when she reads our posts, she really does imagine us talking like Steve Irwin.

2. That Sarah writes more regularly for Andy's blog than Andy does.

 
At 2:21 pm, Blogger Sarah said...

Sad but true Mr Dave .. Sad but true

 
At 6:56 pm, Blogger andy said...

ok ok posting tonight just to shut you all up.... man the pressures of being so popular ;)

hehe

 
At 7:16 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh my bad I thought you ment 2night as in last night .. but you must have ment 2 night as in ... when ever the bloody hell you want it to mean ......

 

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